the republicans and the democrats are fighting over the debt ceiling. liberals say, debt ceiling is a fiction, it's not even real, it may be the law, but it's antiquated, out of date. that's where we are now on the second amendment, where you hear people like andrew cuomo in his state of the state speech in new york last night. >> megyn: can i interrupt you on that, nothing you were going to go there, we cued up this sound and chris is going to make his point about this sound. listen to the governor of new york and we have bill clinton here, too, as well who you mentioned in power play. listen to them. >> i say to you forget the extremists, it's simple, no one hunts with an assault rifle. no one needs ten bullets to kill a deer. and too many innocent people have died already. end the madness now. i grew up in-- culture, but this is nuts. why does anybody need a 30-clip, a 30-round clip for a gun. why does anybody need one of those things that carries a hundred bullets. >> megyn: some bill clinton's was a little garbled, but why does anybody need one of